[Dixielandjazz] Re: Topic 3 - Baritone as Trombone

[richard88jazz at att.net]

A Bariton Horn would be perfectly fine as a trombone substitute IF the player sticks to playing TROMBONE PARTS.  In my experience, that's usually NOT the case and that presents a real problem in ensemble playing!!  Most bari players treat the horn as a SOLO instrument which is usually in the way during ensembles.  Even during solos, if straying too far from the trombone style, it becomes a muddled mess and not very pleasing to hear.  Of course, there are always exceptions, but this has been my experience.  My bottom line: Better to leave the thing home and do without rather than listening to bleating bari solos all night long!!!

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Rich Skrika, piano
Albany, NY
richard88jazz at att.net


> Message: 3 
> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:41:11 +1100 
> From: D and R Hardie 
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Baritone as Trombone? 
> To: jobriant at garlic.com 
> Cc: 'Pam Munter' , dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com 
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> Hi everybody, 
> It may seem a bit trivial, but the baritone horn 
> had a distinguished history in early New Orleans jazz bands. As I 
> recall, Jack Laine and Georg Brunis were baritone players and there 
> were others. It would be interesting to hear early jazz played on the 
> instrument. 
> regards. 
> Dan Hardie 
> http://members.ozemail.com.au/~darnhard/EarlyJazzHistory.html 
> 
> On Wednesday, November 23, 2005, at 01:35 PM, Jim O'Briant wrote: 
> 
> > Pam Munter asks: 
> > 
> >> ... Anyone else have any experience with a 
> >> baritone in a Dixieland band? 
> > 
> > Bob Romans (who's subscribed to this list) and the Cell Block Seven use 
> > three or four Double-Bell Euphoniums. 
> > 
> > Howard Miyata of the High Sierra Jazz Band will occasionally put down 
> > his 
> > Kanstul Trombone (with a solid copper bell that he raves about) and 
> > pick up 
> > Kanstul baritone -- a true, smaller-bore & less-conical British Brass 
> > Band 
> > Baritone. 
> > 
> > And there have been a lot of valve trombone players in OKOM over the 
> > years.... 
> > 
> > Jim O'Briant 
> > Tuba 
> > Gilroy, CA