[Dixielandjazz] Re: N.O. Style BANDS WORLDWIDE

[Barrie Walter Marshall]

I agree with you completely, some of it is about what is called The Living 
Tradition, the new generation of musicians have got that feel; because the 
city has a continuing tradition since jazz first appeared, it is alive, the 
only other comparison I have is the English Morris Dancing Tradition, the 
two best teams in this country by a long, way are Bampton and Headington, 
they have been dancing in these villages(now towns) for hundreds of years 
without a break and it shows, the continuity in the local community is still 
there as it is with the musicians in New Orleans, you only have to listen to 
a bands like the Dirty Dozen etc and that great New Orleans street beat is 
still there, because its always been there and the youngsters absorb as they 
grow up on the street, not third hand from recordings.

Barrie


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <tcashwigg at aol.com>
To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:15 AM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Re: N.O. Style BANDS WORLDWIDE


> Hi Tony & All:
>
> New Orleans is a fascinating subject as well as the great Jazz musical 
> history of the city.
>
> I have been fortunate enough to travel around to many places in the world 
> with my band of transplanted New Orleans musicians who left the great 
> Mecca primarily because, ( Just Like Louis Armstrong and many others from 
> there) they could not make a respectable living at home playing New 
> Orleans Jazz.
>
> The Myth is bigger than the reality.   I have run into countless New 
> Orleans Style Bands in many countries and have yet to hear one that sounds 
> like Real Down Home New Orleans Jazz Natives playing Real New Orleans 
> Jazz.   Every country I visit has a few bands on the festival bills 
> calling themselves New Orleans this and New Orleans that, but none of them 
> we have encountered come very close to being Authentic.   Most of them 
> learned their music from Fake books, and old scratchy recordings and 
> unfortunately their music sounds the same way.   Old Fake and Scratchy. 
> Their is a big difference in sounding Tired and being tired musically :)) 
> I never heard Louis Armstrong sound Tired even when he was Tired.
>
> But I have heard a lot of tired guys try and sound like him.
>
> Even some of the current Raved about New Orleans Musicians are not a 
> Native New Orleanser's  nor even from Louisiana, some of them are from 
> Europe and Canada,  Some of them are good musicians, some of them are so 
> so musicians, and some of them are bad musicians.   Just being from New 
> Orleans does not make you a great musician, nor having visited there and 
> played a sit in number or two at Fritzell's does not make you a New 
> Orleans Musician either.   Neither does playing a set with the 
> Preservation Hall Jazz Band in Preservation Hall mean that you are a New 
> Orleans musician.    Being a New Orleans Musician is more of a feeling and 
> a musical attitude than anything else, the music is just a bunch of notes, 
> it's what and how you play them that makes the difference and makes it 
> real New Orleans Music.   There are good musicians of all sorts all over 
> the world who can play any style they choose respectfully, however there 
> is usually a tight edge to the authentic guys that stands out above the 
> others that may not have lived the life and culture to it's fullest.   Me 
> included.  which is why I try to keep authentic New Orleans guys in my 
> lineup.
>
> The same thing can be said for Kansas City Jazz, Chicago Blues, Memphis 
> Blues, and Nashville Country Music.   Heck most Nashville Country music 
> stars were not from Nashville either.   How easily the public is fooled 
> and continue to buy into the Public Relations and Advertising hype.  :))
>
> Anybody who get a drivers license or residents ID card from New Orleans 
> can claim to be a new Orleans Musician just holding an instrument, 
> unfortunately I have recently met a few like that trying to collect some 
> New Orleans musicians relief money, they got very upset when I called them 
> on it and proving to them that they were actually from  California not New 
> Orleans where they had only resided for four weeks prior to the Hurricane.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tom Wiggins
> Saint Gabriel's Celestial Brass Band
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Yarra Yarra Band
>
>    I've sent the DJML posting on to Maurie Garbutt, leader of the Yarra 
> Yarra New
> Orleans Jazz Band.
>
> Maurie is currently playing trumpet with the Louisiana Shakers -
> www.louisianashakers.com/. Their regular Sunday afternoon gig is at Mesata
> Cafe-Bar, 101 Smith St Fitzroy, just around the corner from my joint so 
> when I
> can I go to hear them and have the occasional sit in. They play the real 
> N.O.
> style.
>
> cheers
>
> Tony Orr
> banjo, Foster's Foaming Five
> Melbourne
>
>
>
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