[Dixielandjazz] Quitting

[Len Nielsen]

Hi Tom

I don't know specifically what Kaye had in mind so I am not going to try 
to speak for her. In any case, she can do that better than I.

I just want to say, thank goodness for OKOM, thank goodness for OKOM 
festivals, thank goodness for OKOM musicians, thank goodness for OKOM 
festival fans and patrons, thank goodness for OKOM jazz societies, thank 
goodness for all the people who organize OKOM festivals and the 
volunteers that make them operate. If there are any others that I have 
missed that have anything to do with this type of operation then I wish 
them a big "thank goodness" as well. They all deserve our appreciation 
for the fantastic efforts they have made over a period of many years.

Without these festivals and societies we would not have half the 
Dixieland Jazz that we have now. Maybe that should be one quarter or one 
tenth or even less than that. Forget about them preserving the music, 
that's just one of the favorite BS lines from the festival knockers. 
They are 'providing' the music to thousands of people who love the music 
and who travel great distances to hear it and also spend their money to 
do so. We don't want to have the music preserved we just want to enjoy 
it here and now. We can't do that if it is only played at a monster jazz 
festival in New York or Washington or Chicago or Los Angeles or New Orleans.

For the 5 or 6 years I have been on the list OKOM festivals have been 
the whipping boys in post after post after post after post after post 
after post. Get the idea???? It's time to get the needle of the old 
gramophone out of the rut. It's been done!!!

Sincerely

Len Nielsen

PS Tom, this post is not meant to be aimed at you. Your post just 
happened to be the last in line. I have no idea if this is part of the 
problem as these are my thoughts alone.





tcashwigg at aol.com wrote:
> Perhaps Kaye and some of the others  on the list who are chiming in with 
> her statement or in support of it  are getting post that the rest of us 
> are for some reason not receiving,  apparently trashing other musicians, 
> but something must be terribly wrong with the Djml system if that is the 
> case, because I have not seen ANY SUCH posts.   And quite Frankly when I 
> got the one posted by Kaye I was having a hard time understanding what 
> it was even about.
> 
> Perhaps I missed a bunch of posts, but I keep my computers on 24/7 and 
> monitor the DJML as I work so I don't miss much if it come in on DJML.
> 
> Just my observation,
> 
> And as far as I am concerned, ANY OKOM musician or bandleader that has a 
> consistent record of 160 -200 paid verifiable  gigs a year has earned 
> the right to have it be about HIM.  That after all folks is how the 
> Legends became legends, by working 200 paid gigs a year and more.  I do 
> not envy Mr.Barbone, at all, I just wish the West Coast Market for OKOM 
> was once again as lucrative as the East Coast is, and it damned well 
> could be if more folks would do what Mr. Barbone does to promote it and 
> sell it rather than sit around and pretend to be preserving it and 
> keeping the music alive.  If Turk Murphy would have done it Barbone's 
> way he would not have gone out of business either.
> 
> Folks the Music is ALIVE it is many of the practitioners that are DEAD 
> and needing to be preserved.
> 
> I have heard the same B.S. for years about the BLUES and Blues Societies 
> are still using the same old BS slogans, Keeping the Blues Alive.   
> Hell  the Blues have never been so poplar in History and certainly not 
> because of Blues Societies, notoriously started and run by well meaning  
> folks who just want to get drunk and hear the Blues for cheap money so 
> they can have more to spend on Booze.   Great Blues artist like B.B. 
> King who earns $75,000.00 a show is what's keeping the Blues Alive Folks 
> by taking it to new and younger audiences every day all around the world 
> and mostly on JAZZ festivals too.  Hell Blues has been keeping Jazz 
> alive for at least thirty years now.  Wake UP !!  It sells the tickets.
> 
> Tom Wiggins in the dark again. :))
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kaye Wade <kaye at kayewade.com>
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Sent: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 21:34:52 -0700
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Quitting
> 
>   No, Steve Barbone, it's about you. 
>  
>  On Aug 17, 2005, at 12:00 PM, dixielandjazz-request at ml.islandnet.com 
> wrote: 
>  
>  > 
>  > 10. Unfamous Musicians? Trashing? (Steve barbone) 
>  > 
>  > Gee, I don't know Kaye. Vito Musso was just about always famous here
> 
>> in the 
> 
>  > East USA. Ditto for Fire House Five. They were both revered. However, 
>  > George 
>  > Rock does indeed elude me. Maybe faulty memory. 
>  > 
>  > I don't see much "trashing" going on either. 
>  > 
>  > Cheers, 
>  > Steve Barbone 
>  > 
>  > PS. IMO this is a great list . . . lots of info . . . lots of ideas . . 
>  > lots of fun. It helps to remember that it is not about who/what each
> 
>> of us 
> 
>  > is individually. For those who are disturbed by the list content from 
>  > time 
>  > to time consider the following Musical Content: "You're So Vain, You 
>  > Probably Think This Song Is About You." Well, it isn't about you. 
>  > 
>  
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