[Dixielandjazz] Music is ?

[LARRY'S Signs and Large Format Printing]

There was a tune out in the late 50's early 60's called Quiet Village.  It
used all sorts of calls.  I always thought it was a cool song but for this
one exception I'm not much for the bird calls etc.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russ Guarino" <russg at redshift.com>
To: "Edgerton, Paul A" <paul.edgerton at eds.com>
Cc: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Music is ?


> Beam me back to Earth, Scottie, this discussion has floated into
neverland.
>
> Bird songs and frog calls are certainly not art. They are part of natural
> earth.  Art is the reproduction, and interpretation, created by man, of
some
> element of "earth song".
>
> Russ Guarino
>
> "Edgerton, Paul A" wrote:
>
> > Paul> "Since music is the result of human effort and not random
> > occurrence, it is art."
> >
> > Steve> "Human effort? Maybe not. What about bird songs, or frog mating
> > calls, especially the peepers here in the Eastern USA or many other such
> > songs. Aren't they "music", but not art? (since art is usually defined
> > as that which is produced by humans, as opposed to by nature) Why
> > shouldn't other animals be able to produce music? Especially now since
> > we are beginning to realize that other animals besides humans can
> > think."
> >
> >     Would you call a carnival barker's cry art?  I wouldn't.  I think a
> >     birdsong is a form of communication -- another kind of organized
> >     noise -- but not really music.
> >
> > Steve> "What makes us so special, other than ego? :-) VBG."
> >
> >     We may share a lot with animals, be we didn't come to dominate the
> >     earth simply on the basis of our opposable thumbs.  Maybe it *is*
> >     our ego that deserves the credit.
> >
> > Paul> "Art is motivated by intention and powered by craftsmanship. You
> > need both intention and craftsmanship to produce good art."
> >
> > Steve> "And also to produce bad art, no?"
> >
> >     Is beauty inherent in an artifact?  I see art as an enduring means
> >     of engaging the consciousness of another individual.  One's
> >     reaction to a particular piece probably depends more on yourself
> >     than on the artwork itself -- or even the artist.
> >
> > Steve> "Is there not some mysterious hum that occurs deep in the earth.
> > Is this music? (or the devil playing a washboard) Also, at our ongoing
> > gig in the Showboat Casino the slot machine rooms emit a droning hum
> > that is exactly a middle C. Apparently some marketing guru (or devil's
> > disciple) feels that this hum evokes a betting response in humans. (We
> > play a lot of tunes in C when we pass the slots areas)
> >
> >     Are you suggesting that perceivable vibrations equate to music?
> >     No.  The power grid in our country vibrates at 60Hz, which is
> >     pretty close to a C.  In Europe, it's 50Hz.  But this isn't music.
> >     The wind whistling around a loose bit weather stripping on a car
> >     isn't either.  There's no artistic intention, is there?
> >
> >     Music is organized noise, but not all organized is music.
> >
> > -- Paul Edgerton
> >
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