[Dixielandjazz] Re: "Trad" Jazz in the UK

[TCASHWIGG at aol.com]

In a message dated 9/27/04 10:28:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
williamhorton at peoplepc.com writes:

> 
> It's incredible that Tom, normally a sensible guy, 


Thanks Bill, I Think?

could lay blame on jazz 
> societies for the decline in popularity of tradjazz! 


 I'm familiar with a l
> ot of jazz societies and none of them are at all elitist.
> 

Some of them are and do not even know it Bill:  which is the basis of my 
statement.

  On the contrary, 
> they ALL work their buns off trying to widen interest in OKOM.



I don't see that, and if they really did outside their immediate circle they 
would be expanding memberships and having more successful events and we would 
not be hearing all the bands and musicians complaining about no place to work 
and the decline and soon expected Death of OKOM.

> 
> Isn't it more likely that the decline of interest is sort of inevitable-- an
> evolutionary kind of thing.  I didn't like my dad's favorite music, he
> didn't like his dad's favorite, and probably my grandpa didn't go for his
> dad's, etc.  Despite my devoted efforts, my kids and their kids don't dig my
> favorite music, either. 


That's an opinion running in your family not everyone else's family 
necessarily Bill, I happen to like my Dad's and his Dad's favorite music very much, and 
it taught me to go backwards and discover Dixieland which they did not listen 
to.   I will say however that you can bet they did not like My music and were 
totally intollerant of it.

  It's human nature.  Nobody's to blame, especially > not jazz societies.  
> Trad isn't the only wonderful thing that's practically disappeared, either.  
> Consider wing windows on cars, and pitchers of draft for 2 bucks!

Naw Bill you can still get  $2 buck pitchers of Beer, they just are in much 
smaller pitchers nowadays, like 12 oz cups, :))

> 
> Tom would also have us believe that jazz societies are somehow responsible
> for decreased attendance at nightclubs where jazz used to be offered. 
 I
> 
> can't speak for the general population, but in my personal case, I don't go
> to nightclubs as frequently as I used to for two reasons:  (1) I'm too old
> to get wasted till 2 a.m. as I used to, and (2) intolerant
> Healthier-Than-Thou bigots have  forced  nightclubs around here to become
> no-smoking!      But I suppose it is a far better thing for them to sit 
> around and breath second hand smoke and die off at the same rate as most folks 
> who care to smoke themselves to death.

Hello: !!   I apologize for being so nonsenseible in my post about these 
things.  And I am grateful that your above and below statement makes perfect sense 
of what I said clears it all up nicely.  Thank you again.

You just confirmed what I said again Bill, re -read your own statement, I 
love it when you do that, keeps me from continuing the argument which  is no 
argument at all.

 Tell me how the hell you can enjoy a Tanqueray martini (or > jazz) without a 
> cigarette in your hand!
> 
> Very well thank you, and will more than likely do it for a lot more years 
than those who choose to smoke and drive another nail in their coffin every time 
they light up,  Tha't Ok however I am a tolerant person and await the 
opportunity to play at their funerals, they are still contributing to the economy, God 
Bless em.

My Daddy and His Daddy and several uncles & aunts and cousins who smoked all 
their lives are all dead and gone at early ages,  (40 to 67 ) from smokeing 
induced cancer and heart attacks, so far Me and My three sons have avoided that 
same fate by not smoking, and will be around alot longer to preserve and 
promote OKOM.

Musical content:  "Smoke Smoke Smoke that Cigarette" 
      flip side          "Drivin' nails in my Coffin"


Cheers,

God Love ya man,

Tom Wiggins