[Dixielandjazz] New Orleans

Thu Oct 21 20:33:54 PDT 2004

Dear Brian and Mates,
Contrary to popular reports, only one third of patients with syphilis
actually go on to the tertiary, lethal stage of the disease. It is not
infectious after the first two stages, which are over within about two years
of  the primary infection. Reinfection is  uncommon. Therefore many of the
whores in Storyville would not have been infectious if they had been in
business for a few years and, as far as I have been able to ascertain, not
many jazz players died of the disease, but syphilis is known as"The Great
Imitator", and diagnosIs and case reporting were far from perfect in those
days.
Scott Joplin died in New York of  tertiary syphilis (paresis) in 1917, but
was probably infected in  Sedalia in the 1890s. If you are interested in a
discussion of  syphilis and the infections, or not, of  Buddy Bolden, Louis
Chauvin, Tony Jackson, Scott Joplin, Charlie Parker, and  Lester Young, it
is all in my book, "Jazz and Death. Medical Profiles of Jazz
Greats". Regards.
Fred

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Towers" <towers at allstream.net>
To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] New Orleans

> Larry,
> Quite possibly.  Scott Joplin, however, would not have caught the disease
> from a New Orleans brothel. He was not from there.  He was from Sedalia.
> Brian Towers
> Canada
>
>
> http://hotfivejazz@tripod,com (band web sites)
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "LARRY'S Signs and Large Format Printing" <sign.guy at charter.net>
> To: "Brian Towers" <towers at allstream.net>;
<dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] New Orleans
>
>
> > It also contributed to many of their premature deaths for example Scott
> > Joplin died from Syphilis.
> > Larry
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Brian Towers" <towers at allstream.net>
> > To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 9:54 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] New Orleans
> >
> >
> > > Guy Bisson,
> > >
> > > Well done!  A wonderful idea, to start a web site such as this.  I
have
> > > added it to my favourites and will be interested to see it develop
> > further.
> > > Good lay-out too.
> > >
> > >  I agree that the influence of Storyville and the brothels and their
> part
> > in
> > > the development of jazz is somewhat over-played.  It makes a colourful
> > story
> > > I suppose and is manna for the movie industry etc!   It is well to
> > emphasise
> > > that the jazz bands did not play in the brothels (too small for a
start
> > and
> > > not economic)  although many jazz bands played in the bars and dance
> halls
> > > around Storyville.   The jazz musicians that did play in the larger
> > brothels
> > > on a regular basis were invariably pianists, such as Jelly Roll
Morton,
> > Tony
> > > Jackson etc.  We must be grateful to the brothel "Madames" in that
they
> > > helped provide the youthful Jelly Roll Morton  make a living from
> playing
> > > the piano and develop his jazz skills.  Interesting to recall that by
> > 1915,
> > > at the age of 25, he had left New Orleans permanently.
> > > He must have played a huge part in spreading the message of jazz to
the
> > rest
> > > of the USA.
> > >  Prostitution clearly brought a lot of money into the Storyville area
in
> > the
> > > period up to 1917 and this would have filtered down to the musicians.
> > Louis
> > > Armstrong was just 16 (d.o.b Aug 4/1901) when the prostitution laws
> > changed
> > > in Storyville but no doubt he heard lots of great jazz as a teenager ,
> > while
> > > hanging around in the streets outside the Storyville bars.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to further development!
> > >
> > > Brian Towers,
> > > Canada
> > >
> > >
> > > From: "Guy Bisson" <guy at easybigeasy.com>
> > > To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 3:33 AM
> > > Subject: [Dixielandjazz] New Orleans
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sue,
> > > >
> > > > I remember your post of a year ago and I seem to remember that I
> replied
> > > suggesting you visit Fritzels and check out the excellent Ryan
Burrage.
> > It's
> > > great that you have now moved to New Orleans to be closer to the
music.
> As
> > > others have suggested, there are excellent and growing congregations
of
> > > music clubs featuring great jazz on Frenchman Street and Rampart
> > > Street..both within easy walk of the French Quarter hotels. I have
been
> > > off-list for about a year, but have spent that time creating a Website
> > > dedicated to New Orleans. As a distinctly amateur clarinet player and
> > > passionate fan of early jazz, I particularly want the music section to
> be
> > > the best available guide to listening to and finding New Orleans jazz.
I
> > too
> > > was frequently frustrated on visits to the city when trying to find
> > > non-touristy music until I found out where to go and who to look out
> for.
> > I
> > > would also echo previous posts in recommending The French Quarter
> > Festival,
> > > but also the Satchmo Summerfest...dedicated to Louis's birthday. This
is
> > > also a good time of year to visit if music is your passion, it's also
> low
> > > season and the hotels are cheap...if you don't mind possibly having to
> > flee
> > > a hurricane! Anyway, I'd really appreciate some feedback on my music
> pages
> > > from experts on this site...it's still early days and I plan to add a
> lot
> > > more over the coming months...the pages are at
> > www.easybigeasy.com/music.htm
> > > > thanks
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