Fw: [Dixielandjazz] Recording Jazz

[Tom Wood]

Good informative post Jim - Yes I agree.
When playing with a grand piano we usually have the banjo player in the
elbow of the grand and the double bass at the end of the piano (on the short
stick) with central drums behind the front line.  Each band member usually
requests "a full monitor mix" for big stage work.
Tom (artful "what about Tatum" dodger) Wood

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Kashishian" <kash at ran.es>
To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Recording Jazz


> If it is a 9 foot grand, even the drummer ends up 15 feet away.
> Bob
> mr.wonderful at ringwald.com
>
>
> Bob, that is a long standing argument I have with our pianist, who
> insists on only having his piano in his monitor on a large stage.  I
> have tried to point out that there can easily more than a  second of
> delay in the live sound from the other guys in the band.  If he doesn't
> have them in his monitor, then he is setting his own tempo on his own.
>
> I can demonstrate, using a digital delay on a stereo signal in the
> studio, that you can actually hear a difference in the two sides when
> even a 26 milisecond delay is applied to one leg.  Precisely, the old
> "double-up the voice" trick using the Eventide delay (1970's) was
> applying 26mS and 56mS, one delay to each leg.  Pull that up on a fader
> mixed with the non-delayed sound, and you have a nice, fat/full voice!
> Miliseconds can be pleasant, seconds can be disastrous!
>
>  So, it shouldn't be too hard to understand that a drummer's sound,
> which someone else on the stage might hear after it has bounced off the
> top of the stage (which can be 20 - 50 ft up, easily)......and out to
> the audience & back, etc., may not coincide with what the drummer hears
> where he is.
>
> Without a full monitor mix, you can wander around the stage and you very
> well may have to decide who's rhythm you wish to stay with.
>
> I't amazing that this is beyond the understanding of some people.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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