[Dixielandjazz] Cut #3

[Mike Durham]

Hi Rebecca: the "second theme" would usually refer to the second part of a 
tune (Chimes Blues has three, if you include the 'solo' Armstrong plays at 
the end of the original King Oliver recording). Sometimes 'themes' are 
referred to as 'strains'. Most rags, for instance, have three themes (or 
strains!) characterised by different melody and in almost all cases 
different chord sequences from one another, not to mention changing of keys 
between one theme and the next. Buddy's Habit is a well-known classic jazz 
example of the multi-themed tune - a 16 bar A theme, usually played twice, 
then a 20 bar B theme (with breaks), then back to A, followed by a 4 bar 
modulation from the key of Bb to the key of Eb for the third theme of 32 
bars (this is known as the 'trio' ). This multi-theme structure is not to be 
confused with the 'chorus and verse' structure of most popular music of the 
20's and 30's, where the verse (again, in most - but by no means all - 
cases) is usually shorter than the chorus: typically, 16 bar verse followed 
by 32 bar chorus. Most tunes written for OKOM are multi-thematic or at least 
have verse + chorus, but many are played today as chorus-only versions, a 
great shame IMHOP. Sorry if this just complicates matters!

Cheers,

Mike D.



>From: "Thompson" <rebecca.e.thompson at verizon.net>
>Reply-To: rebecca.e.thompson at verizon.net
>To: <lswain at penrose.com>,<dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Cut #3
>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:46:33 -0600
>
>So the phrase "the second theme" refer to a part of the original song we 
>are
>used to hearing?  or a totally different tune?
>
>I am sorry to appear so dumb.  (it is only because I am!)
>
>Rebecca Thompson
>Flower Mound, Texas
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: lswain at penrose.com [mailto:lswain at penrose.com]
>Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 11:29 AM
>To: Mike Durham; dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com;
>rebecca.e.thompson at verizon.net
>Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Cut #3
>
>
>On 12 Jan 2004 at 10:40, Thompson wrote:
>
> > Please...more info on "the second theme" of Chimes Blues.  I wasn't
> > aware there was more than one.
> >
>
>Listen to this from the Red Hot Jazz archives:
>
>http://www.redhotjazz.com/Songs/Oliver/Creole/chimesblues.ram
>
>Larry Swain
>
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>
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