[Dixielandjazz] keeping track on measures in a song /A differentco

[Paul Reid]

Bill Biffle wrote;

<<Isn't "In The Wee Small Hours" like this? No bridge, two 16 bar
phrases just alike except for the last measure or so? 

Bill Biffle>>

    Well, sort of, but a little different format. "I Wished On Yhe Moon"
is without a bridge, but with a 4 bar turnaround at the end of the first
16. and a resolved 4 bars on the end of the second 16.

     ".....Wee Small Hours" is broken down into four, 4 measure sections
totaling to a 16 measure chorus. One could consider the second set of 4
bars as a turnaround, and the 4th set as the resolve. Not really a
bridge on section 2.. Close, but closer to a cigar butt.

       Which brings up another song with this format; "Anytime,
Anyplace, Anywhere".

Nice to know that jazz is alive and kicking in Albuquerque. I KNEW there
was a good reason to return there. Nice area. Have a good Sunday
session.

Uncle Paul
PS; Yes, Mike, it is a small world. I wasn't even aware that Jeff knew I
Wished On The Moon, when I caled it. A great tune worth repeating.
(correctly) Has a nice verse too, with a wonderful lyric. Dorthy Parker
is a pleasant surprise.
     Jeff  a monster of a player and fun to play duets with. It's a kick
when you get musicians like Jeff, I, and Randy Morris together on
pianos. Randy is also very talented on other instruments. While I'm
dishing out compliments, let's not forget Valentine boquet's to Jeffs'
wife Ann, who play's wonderful music on her flute.

U.P.
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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:36:46 +0000
From: "Mike Durham" <mikedurham_jazz at hotmail.com>
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It's a small world.....I played "I Wished On The Moon" with Jeff
Barnhart at a concert ("Drop Me Off At Harlem") we held last September
here in Newcastle, England. Lovely tune, with a rather touching lyric by
Dorothy Parker of all people.... and yes, you have to watch that bit in
the middle! 
Mike. 

From: whadayesay at webtv.net (Paul Reid)
To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] keeping track on measures in a song /A
different 
confusing pattern. 
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:19:11 -0800 (PST) 
Hi listmates, and all you cousin's. Back on line again. Last month at
the Decatur Jazz fest', a small impromtu jam set took place with `Jeff
Barnhart, myself, Brian Casserly, Randy Morris, Dan Coots, and others. I
called out the ballad "I Wished On The Moon". One of a bunch of songs
that is divided into two 16 bar patterns. If one is not careful, the
last 16 and the first 16 can be mistaken for one 16 measure chorus
instead of 2 patterns of 16, disregarding the turnaround. ( The first
having a turnaround into the 2nd 16 bar pattern which ultimately
resolves itself at the end.) If someone isn´t familiar with the tune
it can easily resolve into just a 16 bar chorus, instead of the full 32
bars. For one familiar with a song of this ilk, it becomes quite
frustrating to not be able to play the full 32 bars. And also a boring
16 bar jam song. 

     It's somewhat like someone chopping up Darktown Strutters
Ball. Editing, after playing the first four bars, to bar 13.and taking
it to the end. And I've seen that happen at very loose "four sheets to
the wind" jam sessions. But then, DSB is a 20 bar tune. (ugh!) 

     Anybody have any more nightmarish' example's such as
these? Hmmmmm..... Just how many legitimate measures ARE there in Artie
Shaws; "Nightmare"? (I used to endlessly play that for strippers.) 

(Music content; "I Had The Craziest Dream" ) 

"Uncle" Paul Reid