[Dixielandjazz] Re: Royalties

[Jim Beebe]

I must say that I don't know of any musician who has ever received any
royalties from any record company except the major ones.  I don't know how
many Jazzology recordings I'm on but I have never received any royalties
except for a small check years ago from RCA for some recordings I was on
with Bob Scboey.  I've gotten paid in money or copies but no royalties.  One
reason that Buck and others have been able to survive is that they don't pay
any royalties.  They don't sell enough recordings to bother with royalties.
I 'm talking about royalties to musicians.  They may have to make a deal
with the songwriters groups, ASCAP and BMI but there the royalties would be
minimal because of the low sales.

Usually when dealing with  small jazz recording companies your make a deal
for some money upfront...enough to pay for the record studio and the
musicians.  The company pays for the album covers, liner notes and printing
up the CDs.  Often as not instead of money, the company pays off in albums.
You might  get several hundred albums which ( if you are the leader) you can
sell and pay yourself and the musicians off.  After that the musicians can
buy copies at distributors cost and sell them on the job.

CDs, essentially, are a PR item and/or an ego item.

Royalties for the most part are just part of the legend.

Jim Beebe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Broadie" <richard.broadie at gte.net>


> I know George Buck and through a third party, did some business where
> George's main concern was about collecting names of musician and/or their
> relatives so that proper royalties could be paid.  He's truly a great man
> living in a rip-off world.
>
> My name is associated with AVID Records near London because of some
> remastering I did for them years ago.  In the UK, performances  become
> public domain after 50 years.  How ever, due to different performace
rights
> laws in the US, you can be arrested, fined and jailed by selling the same
> CDs in the US that are perfectly legal to sell in Europe.
>
> I know.  I almost got sent to jail just for trying to sell a handful of my
> own AVID CDs on the internet.
>
> I won't quote the RIAA's response to my website.  Sufficient it to say,
they
> threatened to have the FBI raid my home and much more.  For those of you
who
> wondered what ever happened to my Mono to Stereo invention -  after 4
years
> of litigation, I no longer had sufficient funds to operate the
corporation.
> Everybody made money on my inventions except me.  The Enron model, in
> reverse.  Having cleaned up my act these days, all I can do is scream "OH
> HECK!!!" and that doesn't feel good or sufficient at all!
>
>
> Dick Broadie
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Beebe" <jbeebe at centurytel.net>
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:36 AM
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] George Buck
>
>
> << if you think for one minute that some copyright
> owner will be looking or ever hear of the CDs being offered by Bud then my
> friend
> you are sadly mis informed >>
>
> Sorry Tom, In this case you may be wrong. The copyright of all the
Jazzology
> LPs are owned by George Buck and he gets very shirty if someone rips off
his
> material particularly as he has issued on CD at least one of the LPs that
> Bud
> has copied and it makes me mad when people rip off the independant
companies
> like GHB who at least try to make these recordings available to the
> collectors
> and operate on a rather fine shoe string.
>
> I must concur here with Jerry. Ripping off George Buck is out of bounds.
He
> is one of the good guys.  George is a true patron of the Arts and has kept
> Jazzology alive without making a dime from it.  He has a mission and he
> believes in it.
>
> I  talked with George a few years ago when he had just returned from
Europe.
> He was totally disheartened.  He had been bothered for years in not being
> able to sell much in Europe.  He finally got over there and discovered
that
> much of what was being sold was pirated.  I believe that he came close to
> discontinuing his recording activity.
>
> We must support George Buck and others.
>
> Jim Beebe
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