[Dixielandjazz] Vic Dickenson

Chuck Kercher ekercher at tampabay.rr.com
Wed May 14 23:13:36 PDT 2003

Hey Y'all, It's easy to start thinking that Charlie is never wrong. The one
time that he was wrong was the time that he thought he was wrong and it
turned out that he was right. He gets a bang out of "Holding Forth" ya know?

    By the way I loved Vic's playing.
----- Original Message -----
From: <JimDBB at aol.com>
To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Vic Dickenson

> In a message dated 5/8/2003 11:12:14 PM Central Standard Time,
> charliehooks at earthlink.net writes:
> >  Well--excuse me!  I had no intention of desecrating a shrine!  I had
> > listened to all those recordings, had never played with Vic before (nor
> > since), so that I--ignorant one--was forced to listen to what I actually
> > heard on the day I played with him.  On that day, whatever way, for
> > whatever
> > cause I've no idea and no curiosity--on that day, standing on my right
> > side where I could not mistake nor can I disremember what I heard: the
> > sounded like a garden hose with a semi-attached mouthpiece.
> >
> >   I am willing to take all you guys' word for it: Vic Dickenson is/was
> > greatest trombone player who ever lived (I'll even forget Jack); but ON
> > THAT
> > PARTICULAR FUkkIN DAY he sounded like a guy with a garden hose and a
> > mouthpiece.  You guys weren't there.  I was.
> >
> > so shut my mouf'
> > Charlie
>   Well, at least you own up to it.  You have desecrated a 'shrine.'
>   I can understand that one might not care for Vic Dickenson's sound or
> but his musicality cannot be denied.  For whatever it's worth, Charlie,
> Wally Cheske, a fine trumpet player in Milwaukee years back, made an
> observation similar to yours.  Wally said that Vic sounded like he was
> playing a rubber hose.
>   BTW, in the list of great artists that Vic has recorded with I forgot to
> mention Bobby Hackett.  Bobby had a five piece group with Vic and three
> rhythm that was outstanding.  Another fine group was the Saints and
> that had Vic, Norm Murphy, a wonderful Chicago trumpet player, pianist Red
> Richards, Barrett Deems and others.  Murphy and Vic together were superb.
>  Charlie, be careful now of whose shrine you tip over.
>  Jim Beebe
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