[Dixielandjazz] TIPS

Jazzjerry at aol.com Jazzjerry at aol.com
Sun Mar 9 14:53:09 PST 2003

In a message dated 7/3/03 7:37:03 PM, JimDBB at aol.com writes:

<< that is weird.  What does a club like Ronnie Scotts do for money to pay 
for the expensive groups they bring in? >>

Hi Jim,

A 'public bar' as defined by the licencing laws in the UK has a very specific 
meaning and is basically 'a room set aside for the sale and consumption of 
intoxicating liquor' and such a room in a 'public house' must be open to the 
public (i.e. everybody providing they are of the appropriate age) without any 
reasonable restriction to buy what is on offer. The landlord can impose 
certain restrictions and can refuse entry to unruly or drunk persons but even 
ones like 'no shoes, no shirt, no service' could be contrary to the terms of 
the licence although I do not believe they have been legally tested. 

However many pubs, but not all, have a 'public bar' plus other rooms one of 
which might be a 'function room' and specified as such on the licence. This 
room is available for hire paid functions and other uses with the possibility 
of restricted admission (e.g.private parties) providing the normal licensing 
laws are complied with regarding under age or after hours drinking are 

Ronnie Scotts is not a 'public house' in law but a different type of 
'licensed premises' to which different rules apply.

Don't worry this only starts to scratch at the surface of the wonders of the 
British licensing law. When you get onto the subject of 'registered clubs', 
'proprietory clubs', 'on' and 'off' licences then it starts to get a little 
more complicated!


"I just paid for the meal, the sales tax and the added gratuity."

I should point out that the meal in the hotel where the gratutity was 
automatically added to the bill was actually a buffet breakfast set up where 
the actions of the very pleasant waiters were somewhat limited to the 
provision of coffee! The rest we did ourselves!



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