[Dixielandjazz] Re: Jazz Festivals

Wed Jul 9 15:09:21 PDT 2003

My recollection is that he didn't want money.  He just wanted to know if
there was someone who would like them for their historic value.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at bu.edu>
To: "G. William Oakley" <gwilliamoakley at earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 3:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Re: Jazz Festivals


> If you'd like, I can post this to the 78 collector's list.  I'd love to
have
> them just for the history but have no money to invest at the moment.  I do
> have a 16" transcription turntable to play them on if that was what he was
> making.
>
> Ron L
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com]On Behalf Of G. William
> Oakley
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:17 PM
> To: TCASHWIGG at aol.com
> Cc: DJML
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Re: Jazz Festivals
>
>
> Snippet:
> "Benny Goodman's concert at Carnegie which  included some very fine
> musicians other than his band."
>
> Tom's reference to Carnegie Hall brings to mind a situation I was
presented
> with some years ago (probably around 1987) and I am wondering if any
> listmates have ever heard of this or if it is just apocryphal.  The on-
air
> entertainment personality for KOA-TV here in Denver called and asked if I
> could give him advice on something.  He said he had met a man who had
> retired to Denver and for many years he had been the sound man for
Carnegie
> Hall.  This fellow said that they had always run a microphone out of the
> ceiling above the stage and recorded all of the concerts there.  This had
> been going on for years and he had still had all of the discs that had
> accumulated from this bootleg situation.  He had no use for them and was
> asking my KOA friend if he knew of anyone who might be interested in
having
> them.  Norvell (my KOA friend) called me and asked if I knew of anyone who
> might want them.  I made a couple of contacts but got nothing back in the
> way of a positive response.
> This brings me to two questions:
> 1. Is this story true?
> 2. Does anyone have an interest in these    recordings if they were
> available?
> According to the sound man this had been going on from the late 30's up to
> the time he retired which I would guess was in the 80's.
> I am not sure I could locate the fellow because all Norvell told me was
that
> he lived in Littleton but if there were interest I would make an attempt
to
> see if I could find him.
> If anyone has thoughts on this situation let me know.
> Best,
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TCASHWIGG at aol.com>
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Re: Jazz Festivals
>
>
> > In a message dated 7/9/03 6:43:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > barbonestreet at earthlink.net writes:
> >
> > >
> > > I don't think one could properly call that a "great jazz festival" in
> the
> > > context we are using for this discussion. It was more like a jazz
> concert with
> > > a couple of acts. Similar to Benny Goodman's concert at Carnegie which
> > > included some very fine musicians other than his band.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > The term Festival does indeed have various interpretations depending
upon
> > where you are in the world.
> >
> > In Italy for example a Festival happens of some kind almost every week
> > somewhere, and the Italians are fond of the word Festival.  Some
Festivals
> last six
> > months, but are really no more than one day or night concerts held over
a
> > period of several weeks or months in various venues.
> >
> > What we commonly refer to as a Festival in the USA is one day gigantic
> event
> > or several days with many acts performing on a variety of stages and or
> > venues.  Some are held in Sport Stadiums, and some are held in parks or
> even open
> > fields such as Woodstock, we all remember that one don't we, even if we
> did not
> > attend.
> >
> > In Europe in the winter time Blues festivals often move indoors and are
> > called Blues Parades, because they feature several acts on the bill at
> each event.
> >
> > I have also toured in Europe with four or five acts in a show and they
> > promoted it as the San Francisco or Chicago Blues festival.  Hardly
> considered a
> > Festival by American Standards, we would refer to that as a musical
Review
> > playing one nighters and often for a week long engagement nightly.
> >
> > So it is partially in the Billing, and many folks promoting one night
> > concerts like to make the public feel that it is a much larger event
than
> it really
> > is so they call it a Festival.
> >
> > Out west we have Tomato Festivals, Bean Festivals, Zucchini Festivals,
> > Strawberry Festivals, Blues Festivals, Jazz Festivals, Flower Festivals,
> Honey
> > Festivals, Mustard Festivals, Wine Festivals, and just about anything
else
> you want
> > to make a festival for.
> >
> > Most of them feature live entertainment in various forms, and would
always
> > welcome OKOM if you go looking for them and book yourselves, some of
them
> pay
> > and some of them don't have an entertainment budget, but you can always
> perform
> > and sell the heck out of your CDs and tapes and book other gigs that do
> pay.
> > It is called Promotion and advertising for your Band Business.  Give you
> > excellent opportunities to cash in on some other organizations
advertising
> and
> > promotion budget to promote your own business and attract new followers
> and fans
> > of OKOM and your music.
> >
> > Playing for a few hours at an outdoor event with 10-50 thousand people
> will
> > get you a lot more fans and CD sales than playing for a year in a pizza
> parlor
> > or small bar once a week or once a month.  The more folks who see and
hear
> you
> > the more famous you get, and every event you play like this attracts you
> new
> > fans that will then come and pay to hear and see you at other events.
It
> is
> > also a good live rehearsal for your group as you are allowed total
freedom
> to
> > play whatever you wish since it is your stage.  Insist upon getting
> newspaper
> > and media coverage for your group for performing at these kind of
events,
> and
> > always ask for it in advance of the event, not afterwards in the form of
a
> > review, as that is useless for drawing any people to the event, although
> it can be
> > useful for your future promotion kit to help sell you to other events
that
> > have a budget.
> >
> > It is always fun to meet new people who walk up to the stage and tell
you
> > they came to hear you because they saw you in the newspaper or on TV
etc.
> lets
> > you know your marketing is working, and make sure you tell the event
> organizers
> > about it as well so they know that people actually came to their event
to
> see
> > you, therefore you do have drawing power to attract folks to their event
> and
> > you can then negotiate for payment or increases the next year.
> >
> >
> > Remember if there is NO OKOM MUSIC at any event you go to it is usually
> the
> > fault of the local OKOM bands for not doing their homework and marketing
> > themselves to the events available to them every week.  You don't call
on
> them and
> > try to book your group you can bet they are not going to call you, there
> are
> > simply too many other groups of all sorts of music genres banging on
their
> door
> > begging for a place to perform, even for Free.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tom Wiggins
> > Saint Gabriel's Celestial Brass Band
> >
> >
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