[Dixielandjazz] Banjo Styles Bud Scott guitar-banjo?

Goggin, Brian (Dublin) GoggiBri at exchange.ie.ml.com
Fri Jan 24 15:51:43 PST 2003


That's fair enough. Difficult to say - I'll have another listen to Noone. 
Maybe he uses it somewhere in the Olivers aswell, although the banjo doesn't
sound deep on them.


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	briantowers [SMTP:briantowers at msn.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:08 PM
> To:	dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Subject:	Re: [Dixielandjazz] Banjo Styles  Bud Scott guitar-banjo?
> 
> No Brian Goggin.
> Bud Scott also played the 6 string guitar-banjo.  The Pictorial History of
> Jazz shows him holding a tenor banjo but with a guitar-banjo at his
> feet.(page 32)
> I am not saying he definitely played the six string guitar-banjo with
> Noone - I have not listened to the tracks hard enough.  Bob Sann thought
> it
> sounded like a plectrum banjo.  I am not sure it is a tenor banjo.  We
> need
> another banjo expert to resolve this question!
> Cheers
> Brian Towers,
> 
> From: "Goggin, Brian (Dublin)" <GoggiBri at exchange.ie.ml.com>
> To: "'briantowers'" <briantowers at msn.com>;
> <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Banjo Styles & Bolden
> 
> 
> >
> > No - Bud Scott used the 4-string tenor banjo - this is clearly visible
> in
> > the 1926 photos of King Oliver's Dixie Syncopators. He was a violinist
> > aswell.
> >
> > Johnny St. Cyr was adept on the tenor banjo and the 6-string guitar
> banjo.
> >
> > I guess they had to strum hard allright, but the rhythm would come
> through
> > allright. The NO guys naturally had a good notion of balance - see the
> > chapter on this in Bill Russell's New Orleans Style - in an acoustic
> set-up,
> > if space allowed they naturally lined up in one line in the order
> something
> > like drums, trombone, cornet(s), clarinet(s), guitar, bass, which
> naturally
> > balanced the sound. See the 1918 MArable pictures, the 1905 Ory band
> picture
> > and several others.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: briantowers [SMTP:briantowers at msn.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 3:03 PM
> > > To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Banjo Styles  & Bolden
> > >
> > > Bob,
> > > I believe Bud Scott could have been using his six string banjo, tuned
> as
> a
> > > guitar.
> > > He did this sometimes, as did Johnny St Cyr.
> > >
> > > But lets not forget that these guys were both originally guitarists
> who
> > > switched to banjo to "keep up with the times"  Then, when the times
> > > changed
> > > again, they went back to guitar!
> > >
> > > As we all know from the photo, Bolden was using guitar in his band,
> which
> > > dates back to at least 1895.    I often wonder how the band baolance
> would
> > > have sounded - Bolden, with his reputed very strong and loud playing
> style
> > > on cornet, backed by a bowed bass and an acoustic guitar - there were
> no
> > > P.A. systems to help them out!
> > > Hmmm!
> > >
> > > Brian Towers,
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <BOBOBANJOB at aol.com>
> > > To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 9:47 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Banjo Styles
> > >
> > >
> > > > Echoing Brian Towers comments, Bud Scott on banjo with Jimmy Noone's
> > > Chigago
> > > > band
> > > > of the late '20s, provides a clean driving rhythm. It sounds like
> he's
> > > using
> > > > plectrum tuning,
> > > > but I can't say for sure...but he creates an incisive mellow tone on
> the
> > > > instrument.
> > > >
> > > > Later, in the '50s, when he played with Kid Ory's band he switched
> to
> > > guitar,
> > > > with Joe Garland on bass.
> > > > I guess to keep up with changing times.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Sann
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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