[Dixielandjazz] Is Miles Davis Jazz?

John Petters jpettjazz@btinternet.com
Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:33:36 -0000


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Well said Jim. happy New year to all on DJML
John Petters
www.traditional-jazz.com
Amateur Radio Station G3YPZ
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  From: JimDBB@aol.com=20
  To: dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 11:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Is Miles Davis Jazz?


  In a message dated 1/1/03 4:06:28 PM Central Standard Time, =
barbonestreet@earthlink.net writes:



    What is important, is that his album, "Kind of Blue", cut in 1959 or =
so
    has been the top selling JAZZ album (as categorized by whomever else
    exists besides us in the world of jazz) for many, if not all of the
    years since then. It is certainly, I think, the top selling jazz =
record
    for the period 1959 to 2003. In spite of that, many might quote the
    opening song from that album and say "So What".

    So What, indeed.

    Cheers,
    Steve Barbone


     Right...I'll come in with my, "So what."   Let me ask the =
gallery...how many people will be buying Miles Davis recordings 50 years =
from today.  I'll venture to say, not many.  Many of them are trite and =
boring.
  One the other hand all of Louis Armstrong's recordings are out there =
and available.  More and more people are buying Armstrong's recordings.  =
Why? ...because every one of them is a gem.  Every one swings and is =
very musical. They are full of joy and good feelings while at the same =
time expressing the deeper angst of life. They transcend time and =
period.

  If Miles Davis's recording "Kind of blue" is the top selling jazz =
recording of all time, does this indicate anything of an artistic =
accomplishment, given the increasing moronification of american society? =
 I don't think so.  Take a look at the top selling records in general =
over the years.  Most of them are horrid crap.  Especially so in the =
more recent years.

  I'm not making these statements to knock MIles Davis. He was an =
accomplished musician and I have a certain respect for him from =
something he told me during one brief encounter when I happened to meet =
him once in 1952-53.  But the relentless promotion from Miles himself, =
his record company and the brainwashed jazz media have placed him on a =
pedestal he doesn't deserve.

  Jim Beebe=20

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  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D3>In a =
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  TYPE=3D"CITE">What is important, is that his album, "Kind of Blue", =
cut in=20
    1959 or so<BR>has been the top selling JAZZ album (as categorized by =

    whomever else<BR>exists besides us in the world of jazz) for many, =
if not=20
    all of the<BR>years since then. It is certainly, I think, the top =
selling=20
    jazz record<BR>for the period 1959 to 2003. In spite of that, many =
might=20
    quote the<BR>opening song from that album and say "So =
What".<BR><BR>So What,=20
    indeed.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR>Steve Barbone</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT =
lang=3D0=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; Right...I'll come in with my, =
"So=20
  what."&nbsp;&nbsp; Let me ask the gallery...how many people will be =
buying=20
  Miles Davis recordings 50 years from today.&nbsp; I'll venture to say, =
not=20
  many.&nbsp; Many of them are trite and boring.<BR>One the other hand =
all of=20
  Louis Armstrong's recordings are out there and available.&nbsp; More =
and more=20
  people are buying Armstrong's recordings.&nbsp; Why? ...because every =
one of=20
  them is a gem.&nbsp; Every one swings and is very musical. They are =
full of=20
  joy and good feelings while at the same time expressing the deeper =
angst of=20
  life. They transcend time and period.<BR><BR>If Miles Davis's =
recording "Kind=20
  of blue" is the top selling jazz recording of all time, does this =
indicate=20
  anything of an artistic accomplishment, given the increasing =
moronification of=20
  american society?&nbsp; I don't think so.&nbsp; Take a look at the top =
selling=20
  records in general over the years.&nbsp; Most of them are horrid =
crap.&nbsp;=20
  Especially so in the more recent years.<BR><BR>I'm not making these =
statements=20
  to knock MIles Davis. He was an accomplished musician and I have a =
certain=20
  respect for him from something he told me during one brief encounter =
when I=20
  happened to meet him once in 1952-53.&nbsp; But the relentless =
promotion from=20
  Miles himself, his record company and the brainwashed jazz media have =
placed=20
  him on a pedestal he doesn't deserve.<BR><BR>Jim Beebe</FONT>=20
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