[Dixielandjazz] Antivirus trick
robert.c.williams at eds.com
Wed Feb 12 12:30:58 PST 2003
Before this thread inspires the wrath of the content police, which should be
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protection program that, as far as I'm concerned, totally kicks butt on any
competing product out there, commercial or not. Including and especially
I've been using it for a couple years. It is easy to set up, will run a
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periodically with no involvement from you but an occasional reboot, and will
scan all your incoming and outgoing mail. Very cool program.
Check it out at http://www.grisoft.com.
While I have no affiliation with this company, and recommend it only out of
deep affection for this group, and perhaps a mild sense of propitiation
after all the lead sheets I've been sent when I should have just written
them out myself, the lazy bastard, if you want to send me a dollar or two, I
That was a joke.
Bob "Soupy" Williams
The World's Most Modest Man and
The Noumenal Leader of the Wooden Nickel Jass Band
From: David Livingston [mailto:snargi01 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:11 AM
To: Patrick Cooke; Rob Perry; DJML
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Antivirus trick
I think it's the same price for updating or buying a
new retail box. When my subscription runs out I go to
a computer show and buy a new program for $15-$20.
Then I get a year's worth of virus updates for half
--- Patrick Cooke <patcooke at cox.net> wrote:
> I recently picked up a virus that my Norton 2002
> Anti Virus would not get
> rid of. It was just about time to renew the
> subscription, but instead I
> sprung for the 2003 version. It took care of the
> problem. It appears that
> the best procedure is to get a new one every year
> instead of just updating
> the old one.
> Pat Cooke
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Perry" <ke6jqh at ke6jqh.net>
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Antivirus trick
> > I don't usually, but it's time to say my piece on
> this. Unfortunately,
> > this trick is still circulating and it's given a
> lot of people a false
> > sense of security. Once upon a time, it was
> moderately effective. No
> > longer. Kak and its relatives were fairly
> unsophisticated worms, there
> > was a high degree of probability that this trick
> would alert the owner
> > of a system that something was wrong.
> > I run a centrally managed anti-virus at work for
> nearly 2000 users. The
> > number one worm that we see a day is Klez and its
> variants. Of 15 to 20
> > alerts for Klez a day, our users only find out
> about it because I have
> > the anti-virus server set to tell them.
> > Modern worms now use a technique that not only
> randomly pulls email
> > addresses from the address book, but also from the
> inbox and in some
> > cases other mail folders that may be on your
> system. In addition they
> > will also masquerade the sender.
> > For instance, Alice, Bob, and Charlie are all
> friends. Alice gets hit
> > with Klez, and it emails Charlie. The email that
> it sends to Charlie
> > claims to be from Bob. Because of the way it
> alters the message, if the
> > message to Charlie bounces, Bob will get the
> non-delivery report instead
> > of Alice.
> > True, it doesn't hurt anything to have a bogus
> email address.
> > Unfortunately, don't believe that it will actually
> alert you to
> > anything. If you have questions about how a worm
> or virus operates,
> > Symantec's Library is the best place to start.
> > http://securityresponse.symantec.com/
> > Rob Perry
> > ke6jqh at ke6jqh.net
> > Phil O'Rourke wrote:
> > > John and others
> > >
> > > The method you stated has been talked about
> before. I am not sure which
> > > listmate gave the explanation why this does not
> work as it "logically"
> > > seem to but I can remember the thread.
> > >
> > > It does seem like a good idea though.
> > >
> > > Phil O'Rourke
> > > Australia
> > >
> > >
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