[Dixielandjazz] Time Marches On - Was Sandoval

[Patrick Cooke]

Steve said:

>>>If you hear the music, you can have it. To copy it exactly like some
folks do, To pay homage to it without copying, like some folks do, To
use it as a learning device, a springboard to your own style, like some
folks do or to build a new rhythmic harmonic structure out of the
foundation like some folks do. And if some "fans" don't like the way you
are doing it, they can take their ears elsewhere, like some folks do.
You and they have every right to do so. Time marches on<<<

Well put, Steve.  Time marches on; but to the same old drummer.  "Different
drummers" simply are not allowed in OKOM.
 Pat Cooke

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:45 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Time Marches On - Was Sandoval


> Defending Sandoval's right to pay homage to whom ever he wants has no
> bearing on the man's character, or lack of it. Many musicians are
> arrogant idiots. Most of us admit it.
>
> But why can't Sandoval play songs of Armstrong or Bix? Why is he
> denigrated for playing "I Can't Get Started." by we OKOMers. Because it
> was Berrigan's tune? Well, once it was Berrigan's tune but that all
> changed, according to composer Vernon Duke, when Dizzy Gillespie
> recorded it, July 9, 1945. (Columbia CL 1036 of Epic SN6042.)
>
> Vernon Duke himself proclaimed that Dizzy's version was his favorite,
> and from that recording on for the majority of jazz musicians and fans,
> it was "his" tune.  Gillespie proceeded to record it 3 more times, each
> time differently, but that 1st one is the preferred version by most
> people. Sandoval also recorded it perhaps with Gillespie's blessing, or
> perhaps after his death, but either way he knew Gillespie claimed no
> ownership over the tune, just like Berrigan before him. Time marches on.
>
> In fact, it was Dizzy Gillespie who told a young Phil Woods something
> that should resonate with us all, even though it is not OKOM. Woods was
> complaining to Diz, that people were calling him a Bird clone, and
> criticizing him for sounding too much like Parker. I don't have the
> quote exactly, but will paraphrase it. Diz said something like: "Phil,
> don't worry about what people say. Here's what Bird thought and this is
> what is important. Bird's music is a gift from him to anybody that wants
> it. If you can hear it, you can have it." Time marches on.
>
> If you hear the music, you can have it. To copy it exactly like some
> folks do, To pay homage to it without copying, like some folks do, To
> use it as a learning device, a springboard to your own style, like some
> folks do or to build a new rhythmic harmonic structure out of the
> foundation like some folks do. And if some "fans" don't like the way you
> are doing it, they can take their ears elsewhere, like some folks do.
> You and they have every right to do so. Time marches on
>
> Being a jazz musician is a thankless task and I tell the kids at jam
> sessions and open mike nights, either to choose another path, or to
> insulate themselves from the fans. Develop and audience, yes, but
> remember that you are not on this earth to please other people any more
> than they are here to please you. So show what you have, and trade it
> for what you need, all the while remembering that Columbus was wrong.
> The world is not round, it is square.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
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