[Dixielandjazz] 1 & 3 vs. 2 & 4

Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:56:58 EDT

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In a message dated 10/15/02 1:02:15 PM Central Daylight Time, kash@ran.es 
writes:

> 
> On Behalf Of Stephen Barbone 
> Just watch all the white folks in the audience clapping on 1 and 3.
> That's 2 beat. ;-)
> 
> Don't be too cruel, Stephen.  Most western folk music is based on 1 & 3,
> therefore the folks tend to hear that first.  Spanish folk music is 1 &
> 3 (other than the 3/4 times), and they will go for that first when
> clapping.  I go out in the audience and physically help some that are
> struggling (especially if she's cute!).
> 
> Jim

   Kash is absolutely right about this. In most European music the emphasis 
is on the 1 & 3rd beat or 1 & 2, in the case of marches and that type of 
music.  Jazz people very often try to force a 2 & 4 clapping along thing when 
in actuality the emphasis within the beat for that is not there.  When you 
hear a jazz or blues group that really plays with that kind of beat, the 2 & 
4 thing will be there naturally.

   JImdbb

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<HTML>In a message dated 10/15/02 1:02:15 PM Central Daylight Time, kash@ran.es writes: 
 
 
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On Behalf Of Stephen Barbone 
Just watch all the white folks in the audience clapping on 1 and 3. 
That's 2 beat. ;-) 
 
Don't be too cruel, Stephen.&nbsp; Most western folk music is based on 1 &amp; 3, 
therefore the folks tend to hear that first.&nbsp; Spanish folk music is 1 &amp; 
3 (other than the 3/4 times), and they will go for that first when 
clapping.&nbsp; I go out in the audience and physically help some that are 
struggling (especially if she's cute!). 
 
Jim</BLOCKQUOTE> 
 
&nbsp;&nbsp; Kash is absolutely right about this. In most European music the emphasis is on the 1 &amp; 3rd beat or 1 &amp; 2, in the case of marches and that type of music.&nbsp; Jazz people very often try to force a 2 &amp; 4 clapping along thing when in actuality the emphasis within the beat for that is not there.&nbsp; When you hear a jazz or blues group that really plays with that kind of beat, the 2 &amp; 4 thing will be there naturally. 
 
&nbsp;&nbsp; JImdbb</HTML>

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