[Dixielandjazz] Dixieland Dress
Patrick Cooke
patcooke@cox.net
Wed, 10 Jul 2002 18:04:31 -0500
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>>Armstrong's band had special made uniform-suits which they wore with =
bow ties. Louis and the band always looked terrific. I don't know how =
they did it with their traveling schedule and cleaning hassles.<< =20
I was in the house band at the Deauville Hotel in Miami Beach in =
the early sixties. Louis' band was there for a week. I watched two =
shows every night for that week. There were suits, all different, with =
regular ties. The real biggies dress well, but not necessarily alike.
Pat Cooke
----- Original Message -----=20
From: JimDBB@aol.com=20
To: dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Dixieland Dress
In a message dated 7/10/02 10:09:23 AM Central Daylight Time, =
barbonestreet@earthlink.net writes:
With all the different views re uniforms and how bands wore them in =
past
etc, etc. there is one thing many of us forget. That in the 40s, 50s =
and
60s in New York City, there were all kinds of Dixieland Bands =
playing in
all kinds of clubs. Ryan's players on 52nd Street, wouldn't be =
caught
dead in uniforms. They wore nice suits. Condon's gang downtown? =
ditto.
The bands at Nick's? A few did, but most did not. The touring N.O.
Revivalists? Suits. Why all the suits do you suppose? Maybe because =
that
is how regular people dressed in NYC back then. Today, in a more =
casual
world, why shouldn't casual dress be acceptable?
For those of us who grew up in NYC in that era, jazz was serious =
music.
And the musicians who played it were serious about how they played =
it,
but relaxed and fun loving when they played it. And I think most US =
East
Coast jazz musicians will tell you today that uniforms are hokey and
only worn when the client paying the bills demands it.
Louis Armstrong never thought that 'uniforms' were 'hokey.' I can =
assure you of that. Perhaps you don't understand that a 'suit' is a =
uniform if it's done in a particular way. =20
Armstrong's band had special made uniform-suits which they wore with =
bow ties. Louis and the band always looked terrific. I don't know how =
they did it with their traveling schedule and cleaning hassles. =20
And you would probably never catch Armstong playing a performance in T =
shirts.
As far as the 'East Coast' musicians and 'uniforms'...perhaps that =
attitude is the reason they are still on the East Coast.
Jim Beebe=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>>>Armstrong's band had special =
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uniform-suits which they wore with bow ties. Louis and the band =
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looked terrific. I don't know how they did it with their traveling =
schedule and cleaning=20
hassles.<< <BR> I =
was in the=20
house band at the Deauville Hotel in Miami Beach in the early =
sixties. =20
Louis' band was there for a week. I watched two shows every night =
for that=20
week. There were suits, all different, with regular ties. =
The real=20
biggies dress well, but not necessarily alike.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Pat Cooke</FONT></DIV>
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Dress</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>In a =
message dated=20
7/10/02 10:09:23 AM Central Daylight Time, <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:barbonestreet@earthlink.net">barbonestreet@earthlink.net</=
A>=20
writes:<BR><BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
TYPE=3D"CITE">With all the different views re uniforms and how bands =
wore them=20
in past<BR>etc, etc. there is one thing many of us forget. That in =
the 40s,=20
50s and<BR>60s in New York City, there were all kinds of Dixieland =
Bands=20
playing in<BR>all kinds of clubs. Ryan's players on 52nd Street, =
wouldn't be=20
caught<BR>dead in uniforms. They wore nice suits. Condon's gang =
downtown?=20
ditto.<BR>The bands at Nick's? A few did, but most did not. The =
touring=20
N.O.<BR>Revivalists? Suits. Why all the suits do you suppose? Maybe =
because=20
that<BR>is how regular people dressed in NYC back then. Today, in a =
more=20
casual<BR>world, why shouldn't casual dress be =
acceptable?<BR><BR>For those=20
of us who grew up in NYC in that era, jazz was serious music.<BR>And =
the=20
musicians who played it were serious about how they played =
it,<BR>but=20
relaxed and fun loving when they played it. And I think most US=20
East<BR>Coast jazz musicians will tell you today that uniforms are =
hokey=20
and<BR>only worn when the client paying the bills demands=20
it.</BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: =
#ffffff"=20
face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><BR>Louis =
Armstrong never=20
thought that 'uniforms' were 'hokey.' I can assure you of =
that. =20
Perhaps you don't understand that a 'suit' is a uniform if it's done =
in a=20
particular way. <BR><BR>Armstrong's band had special made =
uniform-suits=20
which they wore with bow ties. Louis and the band always looked=20
terrific. I don't know how they did it with their traveling =
schedule and=20
cleaning hassles. <BR><BR>And you would probably never catch =
Armstong=20
playing a performance in T shirts.<BR><BR>As far as the 'East Coast' =
musicians=20
and 'uniforms'...perhaps that attitude is the reason they are still on =
the=20
East Coast.<BR><BR>Jim Beebe</FONT> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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