[Dixielandjazz] MILES DAVIS (yet again)

Chuck Kercher ekercher@tampabay.rr.com
Mon, 30 Dec 2002 14:52:27 -0500


Right on Steve,  Gerry Mulligan considered being part of Miles's music to be
a real honor. Mulligan could play any genre of jazz and blow almost anyone
off the stand.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Barbone" <barbonestreet@earthlink.net>
To: <Jazzjerry@aol.com>
Cc: <dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] MILES DAVIS (yet again)


> Hi Jerry:
>
> I will say this just one time. I already know more about both the music of
> Miles Davis and the persona that was Miles Davis than all of the DJML
combined
> except for guys like Jim Beebe and the other real jazz musicians on the
list.
> His music may stand on its own, but understanding the man who produced it
is, I
> think, of great interest to a great many jazz fans, some of whom are on
the
> DJML.
>
> "Listen to Birth of the Cool to learn about Miles?" You can't be serious.
That
> makes no sense to any of the non professional musicians on the list, who
would
> learn nothing about Miles Davis just by listening. As for me, when I want
to
> know something, I try and look at the sum total of all the parts, or the
man.
> And how else would you know about past history without reading about it?
> Listening alone is a very one dimensional way to go about understanding a
man
> and his music, and may produce nothing more than "I like that" or "I don't
like
> that." No real understanding of the form or the substance.
>
> I was just trying to make a point nicely.(for me) That people who don't
know a
> damn thing about certain forms of music, or the musicians who play them,
or the
> writers who write about them, or how these musos lived, should really not
show
> their ignorance by spouting off a quick, smug, opinion. After all, the
article
> was about the man, not a treatise on English Literature.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
>
>
>
> Jazzjerry@aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 29/12/02 11:08:25 PM, barbonestreet@earthlink.net
writes:
> >
> > <<  specifically
> > inserted it at the beginning it to protect you from wasting your time on
> > "claptrap, cakes and cake stands" and any exposure to the life, times,
> > witty sayings and jazz music of one Miles Davis, aka the "Prince of
> > Darkness." ;-) >>
> >
> > Come off it Steve. I don't think either John or I were complaining about
the
> > exposure to Miles Davis just the absolute drivel that is written about
him.
> > His music can stand alone without the help of the so-called experts who
seem
> > to live in a self perpetuating world of pretentious claptrap. If you
want to
> > learn about Miles Davis listen to 'Birth of The Cool' or some of his
other
> > recordings. Don't waste your time, energy and money on the sort of stuff
> > written by this man Shatz (Is that the past tense of a bodily function
> > activity?) and others of his ilk, spend it on buying the recordings.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jerry,
> > Norwich,
> > U.K.
>
>
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