[Dixielandjazz] Re: How to get started improvising.

Patrick Cooke patcooke@cox.net
Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:17:28 -0600


>"And like he says, keyboard or guitar lessons are a >tremendous help to
>any musician.

Absolutely the most helpful thing for learning to hear chords!
   Pat Cooke

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Barbone" <barbonestreet@earthlink.net>
To: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Re: How to get started improvising.


> List mates:
>
> I think Bob Craven meant to post this to the List. Forgive me if this
> duplicates a post of his. Also valuable via Aebersold is the II V7 I
> progression (Vol 3), Turnarounds, Cycles and II/V7s (Vol 16), Scale
> Syllabus (Vol 26), Blues in all Keys (Vol 42) I Got Rhythm In all 12
> Keys (Vol 47), Tune-Up  Sweet GA Brown + more in all 12 Keys (Vol 67),
> plus all the standards, Ellington and lots more good stuff.
>
> And like he says, keyboard or guitar lessons are a tremendous help to
> any musician. I started on piano and was blessed with good ears so it
> was easy for me to improvise on reeds later on. I still go back to my
> piano to work things out if I am stumped.
>
> Bob, I hope I'm playing when I'm 77.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve ( a 68 year old kid) Barbone
>
>
> Stephen,
>
> Your suggestion re/ Aebersold is excellent advice.I also suggest some
> keyboard lessons that helped me. My old buddy Wild Bill Davison was also a
> banjo and mandolin player. Bobby Hackett a guitar player. My saxaphone
man,
> Phil Urso of Chet Baker fame gave me piano lessons years ago he learned
> keyboard from his roommate Gerry Mulligan. Learning the cycle of fifths
and
> fourths is also valuable. I'm 77 years old and still playing. We just
> finished up 7 1/2 years at a casino 5 (days a week) in Blackhawk CO.
>
> Bob Craven
> Summit Ridge Jazz Band
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stephen Barbone" <barbonestreet@earthlink.net>
> To: "Russ Guarino" <russg@redshift.com>
> Cc: <dixielandjazz@ml.islandnet.com>
>
> > Well, each to his own. I suggested Aebersold because Bruce appears to be
a
> highly skilled legit player.
> >
> > Me, I got my chops back via Aebersold play alongs after my 30 year lay
off
> from playing. It was a great help. And I found the written material
> relatively easy to follow, even those marked "advanced". (He puts out
> beginner, intermediate and advanced CDs and books)
> >
> > Best thing to do is get Aebersold's catalog and buy a play along, see if
> it helps, and go from there. Trying to learn how to improvise on one's own
> after not being an improvisor for say 20 years, can be a very difficult
> proposition. Even with my limited skills in playing, I've had
> > the first clarinetist of the Philadelphia Orchestra tell me: "Wow, how
do
> you do that?"  No way could I tell him to play along to Bill Bailey and it
> will come to him, because it won 't. And, of course, he can play rings
> around me. Agree with Russ that it is a right brain function,
> > and Aebersold has chord patterns, and actual improvisation aids, that
will
> help one figure out if he'll ever be able to do it.
> >
> > For him, if he wanted to try it, Aebersold is IMO, the best way. In
> addition to listening to the music.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Steve Barbone
> >
> > PS. Best advice I can thing of? "Sing through the horn".
>
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